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	<title>Comments on: PageRank? Ouch!</title>
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		<title>By: Auto Loans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Auto Loans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Auto Loans...&lt;/strong&gt;

Car loan can be found to be gracious comfortable key to locating a brilliant car loan maintainer on a computer network....</description>
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<p>Car loan can be found to be gracious comfortable key to locating a brilliant car loan maintainer on a computer network&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Optimization</title>
		<link>http://www.dnseo.net/pagerank-ouch/comment-page-1/#comment-590</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Optimization</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubts on that. You have to hit the big guys to tell others that they are serious about their rules.

Hitting those small sites it would not that effective since those sites most probably don&#039;t have the same audience. I am not sure if they were not supposed to be penalized up to this degree (it could be right), but those sites have the audience, and whats the best way to tell everyone that Google is serious on placing penalization to those sites that try to trick their algorithm ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubts on that. You have to hit the big guys to tell others that they are serious about their rules.</p>
<p>Hitting those small sites it would not that effective since those sites most probably don&#8217;t have the same audience. I am not sure if they were not supposed to be penalized up to this degree (it could be right), but those sites have the audience, and whats the best way to tell everyone that Google is serious on placing penalization to those sites that try to trick their algorithm ?</p>
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		<title>By: Malignition.com</title>
		<link>http://www.dnseo.net/pagerank-ouch/comment-page-1/#comment-589</link>
		<dc:creator>Malignition.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google is trying to flex it&#039;s muscles in front of us to encourage us to give in to their demands. None of these sites should have been penalized to such a degree. I am sure we can all agree that there are MANY sites out there which would be appropriate candidates for such a downgrade in PR. Unfortunately, Google has chosen not to target them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google is trying to flex it&#8217;s muscles in front of us to encourage us to give in to their demands. None of these sites should have been penalized to such a degree. I am sure we can all agree that there are MANY sites out there which would be appropriate candidates for such a downgrade in PR. Unfortunately, Google has chosen not to target them.</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Optimization</title>
		<link>http://www.dnseo.net/pagerank-ouch/comment-page-1/#comment-585</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Optimization</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently in the Google&#039;s agenda for this turn of PageRank is to take heavy on those that try to trick their system Thomas.

Nelson, thats what I wanted to hear. I did not wanted to write about it until someone came with that subject. 

The whole politics on Google in regard of the lately penalization does not stand behind link selling only, it also handles the link beggers and those that try to gain backlinks not in a legit way (and running a contest to gain backlinks it is NOT a legit way). What a legit way would be, linking to a page just because you think that the content is useful and might help your readers to expand their knowledge in regard of that subject, thats what is a legit way.

During my recent post about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dnseo.net/widgetbucks-deserves-post/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;widgetbucks&lt;/a&gt; and their nasty way of placing hiddin backlinks with their widgets I had a short email exchange with Aaron Wall (the author of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dnseo.net/go/seobook.php&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SEO Book&lt;/a&gt;) on the hidden links of widgetbucks.

I was actually trying to figure out if users that use WidgetBucks were going to end up being penalized since they have hidden links in their site, but Aaron&#039;s answer was clean and simple, stating that if anyone was about to get a penalization from Google that would have been WidgetBucks since THEY are syndicating their system. (you get the picture of getting backlinks not in a legit way, don&#039;t you). In fact, widgetbucks doesn&#039;t even rank as first their own branding name.

I like tho the way John Chow took the news about drop of his PageRank, his answer was simple (in a comment, not in a blog post) &lt;strong&gt;PR5 is always better than PR0&lt;/strong&gt;. He knew what he has done, so he didn&#039;t complained ... why do others complain (i don&#039;t know about copyblogger, but Darren has been tricking the system of Google by all those contests).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently in the Google&#8217;s agenda for this turn of PageRank is to take heavy on those that try to trick their system Thomas.</p>
<p>Nelson, thats what I wanted to hear. I did not wanted to write about it until someone came with that subject. </p>
<p>The whole politics on Google in regard of the lately penalization does not stand behind link selling only, it also handles the link beggers and those that try to gain backlinks not in a legit way (and running a contest to gain backlinks it is NOT a legit way). What a legit way would be, linking to a page just because you think that the content is useful and might help your readers to expand their knowledge in regard of that subject, thats what is a legit way.</p>
<p>During my recent post about <a href="http://www.dnseo.net/widgetbucks-deserves-post/" rel="nofollow">widgetbucks</a> and their nasty way of placing hiddin backlinks with their widgets I had a short email exchange with Aaron Wall (the author of <a href="http://www.dnseo.net/go/seobook.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">SEO Book</a>) on the hidden links of widgetbucks.</p>
<p>I was actually trying to figure out if users that use WidgetBucks were going to end up being penalized since they have hidden links in their site, but Aaron&#8217;s answer was clean and simple, stating that if anyone was about to get a penalization from Google that would have been WidgetBucks since THEY are syndicating their system. (you get the picture of getting backlinks not in a legit way, don&#8217;t you). In fact, widgetbucks doesn&#8217;t even rank as first their own branding name.</p>
<p>I like tho the way John Chow took the news about drop of his PageRank, his answer was simple (in a comment, not in a blog post) <strong>PR5 is always better than PR0</strong>. He knew what he has done, so he didn&#8217;t complained &#8230; why do others complain (i don&#8217;t know about copyblogger, but Darren has been tricking the system of Google by all those contests).</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.dnseo.net/pagerank-ouch/comment-page-1/#comment-584</link>
		<dc:creator>Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,Darren Rowse at problogger.net was openly asking everyone to link to his blog during his contest he was running for his blog&#039;s birthday. I kind of knew then, that if google was watching he would get horned. he did. jejeje.. I even posted a comment for the marketing chick that was handling the contest for him if that was legit, and she responded saying that was totally legit according to Google.. apparently Matt Cutts didnd&#039;t agree with that..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,Darren Rowse at problogger.net was openly asking everyone to link to his blog during his contest he was running for his blog&#8217;s birthday. I kind of knew then, that if google was watching he would get horned. he did. jejeje.. I even posted a comment for the marketing chick that was handling the contest for him if that was legit, and she responded saying that was totally legit according to Google.. apparently Matt Cutts didnd&#8217;t agree with that..</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Sinfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Sinfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it funny that only a couple of websites got smaller PR&#039;s and no one seemed to go up. 

Google definately has a separate agenda with this one...</description>
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<p>Google definately has a separate agenda with this one&#8230;</p>
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